Saturday, August 18, 2012

Trailroc 235 Run Review: The Update I Promised, the Review That Never Ends

Since I was so eager to post pictures and write about the Trailroc 235 before actually running in the shoes a few days ago, I realize I probably left some of you feeling unfulfilled.

I am sorry about that, trail runners. But, don't worry. After a 12-mile run through Umstead, I finally have the running-specific observations that I promised in part one of this review.

(I'll use the Bare-Grip 200 as a reference point during this review, because that's what I've been using on trails prior to obtaining the 235)

Inov-8 Trailroc 235 on rocks

Nuisances?

I've already established that the Trailroc 235 is a comfortable shoe for me right out of the box. So, let's cut through the fluff and address potential shortcomings of this shoe.

The Laces: They're different. None of the other Inov-8 shoes that I've used have the lacing material that I find on the Trailroc 235. The lace fabric is a little smoother and sort of stretchy, whereas laces I'm used to seeing have a fibrous texture with more density.

Inov-8 trailroc 235This new lacing material may be in place for very specific reasons. Perhaps it is significantly lighter than other lacing materials. Maybe it is supposed to stay tied better.

Whatever the reason, let it be known that I had to stop twice during the first half hour of my run to retie my 235's laces because they'd come undone. I've never had to do that with Inov-8 shoe laces before.

However, after those first two instances of shoelace failure, the laces stayed tied for the remainder of the run. That's encouraging. So, perhaps their newness simply makes them susceptible to unwanted untying. Either way, laces are easily replaceable when problematic.

The TPU in Combination with Lacing for a Secure Fit: You'll recall that I pointed out the additional TPU on the Trailroc 235 and how that is there to work with the lacing architecture for a secure fit. Well, it works!

The potential dilemma with so much secure fitting is that you may need to play with the lacing a bit in order to find a comfortable lacing setting. As with any new shoe, once you find that perfect lacing situation, you'll be golden. But, the quest for that fit can be frustrating. Just take your time. Don't get frustrated.

And, speaking of finding that ideal lacing arrangement, you might notice a certain seam on the medial interior side if you've tied those laces too tightly. This is a seam that exists in all of the Inov-8 shoes I've worn. The fabric adjacent to this seam is always a little puffy when the shoes are new. But, that puffiness goes away once you've given the shoes a good workout. So, don't worry about it.

Inov-8 Trailroc 235 interior
That seam indicated in the photo on the left can be conspicuous during your first few miles of running. But, sweat and physics wear it down quickly. The image on the right is just a bonus perspective for you.

So, from an objective perspective, those are the potential nuisances inherent to running in the Trailroc 235. Now, let's get to the good stuff.

Good Stuff

The Cushioning: Since I've been running trails in the Bare-Grip 200 for several months, the first thing I noticed about the Trailroc 235 was the cushioning in the midsole. I'd nearly forgotten how desensitized to the trail a person could be with an additional few millimeters of EVA.

So, of course, I missed the excellent ground feel afforded by the Bare-Grips. But, over the course of that 12-mile run, I decided that I liked this bit of cushioning, too. It feels a little luxurious when I realize I've stepped on a pointy rock that otherwise would have been painful sans midsole EVA. This feature, the midsole, is especially handy during longer runs on tired feet.

But, if you are wholly opposed to midsole cushioning, then this is not the shoe you want.

Flexibility: Despite the extra barrier between your foot and the ground, Inov-8 managed to make the Trailroc 235's outsole flexible on both the horizontal and lateral axis, a quality that has become a necessity for me.

Granted, the 235 is not nearly as flexible as the Bare-Grip 200 in this way. But, it's still more flexible than anything with a rock plate, or whatever.

In my opinion, this exceptional flexibility is important and justifies the softer cushioning (in lieu of dense midsole material), because the shoe conforms to bumps in the trail fairly easily. And, a shoe that conforms to the terrain enables you to run with a greater sense of stability.

Inov-8 Trailroc 235 and Trailroc 245
If you are a trail runner who doesn't care so much about lateral flexibility and prefers more protection between yourself and the ground, then you'd want to look at the Trailroc 245 (pictured left). I'll write about that one in another post.

To give you a reference point outside the Inov-8 product line, the Trailroc 235's outsole and midsole are similar in flexiblity to that of the NB Minimus Trail 10 — probably a bit more less flexible, actually. But, the Trailroc's advantage here is that the protective rubber outsole covers the entire bottom of the shoe. This contrasts with the MT10's pockets of exposed EVA, which allow pointy things to hurt you easily.

Inov-8 Trailroc 235 mud print

Traction: The outsole's Tri-C™ compound features the Sticky rubber you may have enjoyed on other trail shoes. It's good stuff and seems to work well over wet rocks.

As I ran up and down a few slippery hillsides on the Loblolly Trail, I paid careful attention to my traction. After all, running through mud is one of the Bare-Grip's strong points. So, I wanted to compare how the Trailroc outsole performed on the soft stuff.

Inov-8 Trailroc 235 on wet rock

The Trailroc performed as well as the Bare-Grip for me on East-coast muddy trails. I even attempted to run sloppily so as to allow for a slip or fall. But, the lugs of the Trailroc definitely gripped the mud and wet leaves very well.

I noticed, however, that there was a very slight loss of traction as I ascended a long hill with a lot of rocks under foot. The Bare-Grips typically provide precise footing on this particular climb. So, I was keenly aware of the difference in the way the 235s handled this hillside.

Now, I'm not saying the Trailroc can't handle lots of rocks. I'm just saying that Bare-Grip and X-Talon wearers might detect a degree or two difference in these circumstances when using the Trailrocs.

Liekwise, I suspect that grassy terrain, where the Bare-Grip and X-Talon outsoles also excel in performance; would be more of a challenge for the Trailroc. But, I don't know from experience yet.

Oh, also, The Trailroc kicks ass on hard packed trails! Thus, you would feel comfortable wearing these for one of those trail races that start out on pavement before leading you to the trails.

Drainage: I crossed through an ankle-deep stream on the Cedar Ridge trail to test whether the 235s are satisfactory shoes when wet. And, they drained as well as most other trail shoes I've worn. That midsole EVA probably holds water a little longer than it would if it didn't exist. But, the shoes didn't feel especially heavy after the water crossing.

Whew!

There you have it: Two long posts about a single shoe. And, I haven't even tested durability yet! I might have a problem.

But, that personal problem works to your advantage, right? Now you have more than enough information to decide whether you want to try the Trailroc 235 for yourself. And, if you still have questions, I check for comments, like, all the time. So, feel free to ask!

Thanks for reading!

16 comments:

  1. I need to get to the US and buy me some shoes, clearly... I love the look of those trail shoes and the ones I have have such hard soles - these look much more flexible.

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    1. Well, I certainly wouldn't argue against the acquisition of new trail shoes. These shoes are probably more common in your corner of the world, Petra. Since Inov-8 is a British company, I'd imagine that they're easier to find there.

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  2. Hey Ash,

    Thanks for the review. I may have to migrate back to innov8, though the weight of these is a little much.


    Try this and your laces will never come untied again:

    http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

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    1. And, thanks for the shoelace link, Garth! I'd thought the knot I'd been using was supposed to stay tied no matter what. But, I guess not. So, I'll definitely give this one a try.

      I certainly understand the hesitancy due to the weight. The fit of the wider last really makes it worth it to me, though.

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  3. Thanks for the review. I've been waiting for these since I found your out-of-the box review through google. This is the first "real" review for these shoes on the web!

    I've been eying this shoe ever since it was announced. However, I'm not scared of midsole cushioning and I'm looking for a zero-drop, moderately cushioned trail running shoe. I already own a pair of X-Talon 190 but find them too little cushioned for long runs on our alpine trails here. You compare the Trailroc with your Bares, could you also make a comparision with shoes from the other side of the (cushioned) spectrum?

    Thanks.

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    1. I am embarrassed to admit that I have not tried the X-Talon 190. But, aside from the lugs, that shoe's level of cushioning is probably like that of the f-lite 195, since they're basically the same shoe above the trail outsole.

      So, I would say that the midsole cushioning in the Trailroc 235 will feel a little more substantial than that of the f-lite 195 or X-Talon 190. This is because the forefoot of the 235 is a bit higher off the ground than the 195. Also, I think the 235 will feel a little more protective than the 190, because the 235's outsole is quite dense compared to the X-Talon outsole.

      If you are hoping for something with significantly more impact protection than the 235, the Trailroc 245 fits just as comfortably but has a very different feel underfoot due to the built-in rock guard.

      I hope that helps. Thanks for reading!

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  4. Thanks for the response.

    After enjoying the pleasures of running zero drop shoes for quite a while now I simply can't go back to a 3 mm drop shoe. I know 3 mm does not sound much but I really notice the difference between my zero drop and the 4 mm shoes that I own. Particulary when running downhill. I strike fore/midfoot there as well. With a dropped shoe this feels very weired.

    Greetings from across the pond.

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    1. I completely agree, Stefan. Going back to a shoe with a 3 mm or 4 mm drop is hard to do once you're used to something with zero differential. If it's convenient for you, I definitely recommend trying the 235s. Let me know if they work out for you.

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  5. Just got the 245's and 255's, not run in them already, but out of the box they feel great. The 245 is pretty minimal, but with very good rock protection. In the 255 you can notice the difference in drop and height, specially the heel, and the cushion. I wonder if the protection in the 235 without rockplate is enough for pointy rock tracks downhill. A zero-drop 245 would be ideal, but the 3mm are barely there.

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    1. I walked around in the 245s for a bit and definitely felt a difference in the density of the midsole compared to the 235. But, I still consider the 235 to be fairly protective. I suppose the level of protection needed for rocky descents is fairly subjective, though. And, I agree that the 3mm differential is not terribly noticeable in the 245s. Have fun running in those new shoes!

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  6. Hi Ashwyn, I am considering getting the 235; How would you compare the degree of protection vs the 245? If you step on, let's say, an unnoticed stray rock in a singletrack, will it be ok?

    Cheers,

    Oscar

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    1. That's a good question, Óscar. I consider the difference in protection between the 235 and 245 to be fairly significant. However, that doesn't mean the 235 offers very little protection. The 235's hard outsole rubber and midsole cushioning still provide a good buffer between your foot and pointy things on the trail.

      So, let's say you step on a fist-sized rock as you're descending a hill while wearing the 245s. That rock would feel like a smooth bump in the trail.

      But, if you step on that rock while wearing the 235s, it would feel more like a block of wood with rounded edges under foot. So, you'll have the sense that you've just stepped on something with some shape to it. But, that something will not necessarily feel very sharp against the ball of your foot. And, the 235's outsole will conform slightly to the shape of that rock so that your foot is a bit more stable on the uneven terrain.
      That's my opinion, anyway. I hope it's helpful.

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  7. Thanks a lot Ashwyn, I like a shoe as minimalist as possible, have been using trail gloves a lot, but found I needed a bit of more of protection on some trails, specially when racing. Big rocks are not a problem, what annoys me is the conceived pointy pebble that pokes through the sole and hits your mets painfully. I think the 245 have a very good balance, as the merrell mix master do. Maybe I will get the 235, they will be ideal for training on singletrack and forest roads. Cheers!

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  8. How much fine grit gets through the mesh upper?

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    1. Now that you mention it, I haven't noticed much grit at all getting through the mesh, definitely not as much as I've seen in the f-lites. I think the inner mesh does a better job of keeping sand and such out of the shoes. I'll pay more attention to this and let you know if my opinion changes. Good question!

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  9. Thanks! I got a pair of the 235s, but I think I will send them back and wait for the women's version in the spring. The shoe comes up a bit high around my ankles, and I think it would rub if did anything besides wear them around the house. I'm hoping the ladies' version will be lower cut.
    I have been wearing Vivobarefoot Breatho and Neo Trails, and I am looking for something with a little bit of cushion for when my feet are extra tired. This shoe is the closest thing I've found.

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